Friday, January 04, 2008

´Metal Gear Solid 4´ no longer PS3 exclusive?, part VII and recap

Xbox site XboxFamily has recently claimed to have been told about an Xbox360 version of ´Metal Gear Solid 4´ being in the works, citing an inside source with the game´s publisher.

Speaking to a Konami rep at an undisclosed distribution meeting, I was told, after a lot of nagging, that yes indeed MGS was in development for the 360. The rep stated that Metal Gear Solid will be released for the Xbox 360 between 12 to 14 months after the PS3 version hits shelves. This is not a rumor.

In a Reuters article published in late November, the agency quotes the game´s assistant producer Ryan Payton about the publisher´s high expectations for the game, still officially a PS3 exclusive.

Payton said the new "Metal Gear Solid" needs to sell over a million copies on the first day it goes on sale due to its costly production, but that may be a tough mark to hit given sluggish PS3 sales.

This is the latest in a long series of rumours and pieces of concrete evidence that the game was really coming to other consoles, most likely Xbox360. Here is a comprehensive timeline of who said what and when.

Part I, October 2006

Electronic Gaming Monthly tease readers with the headline ´Metal Gear Solid 4 on Xbox 360?´ on the magazine´s cover.

However, on the NeoGAF forums, former EGM editor Che Chou seeks to squash the rumours.

It's simply a rumor that Konami higher-ups are pressuring Kojima Productions to consider making MGS4 a multiplatform game because production costs on the game are unsurprisingly high and only getting higher. With PS3 install base numbers not looking all that rosy due to console cost and manufacturing problems, Konami is scared they can't recoup their investment on only 1 platform alone.

Part II, December 2006

On his blog, industry insider Daniel Boutros claims that an Xbox360 version of MGS4 has been confirmed behind closed doors.

It's coming a few months later than the PS3 game, but it's happening folks.

This is said to be because publishers - including Konami - don't believe there'll be enough PS3s out there by the time the game hits because of the blu ray diode failure issues. (...)

Part III, January 2007

Speaking to GamePro, Hideo Kojima himself says that ´MGS4 is actually for the PS3 only,´ adding a significant ´so far´.

If I say too much, Mr. Kutaragi might get really upset. I think that the PS3 is difficult to work with, but so was the PS2. (...)

I do have strong interest in creating something for the Xbox 360. In the US and Europe, it is selling, and I think it will sell a lot this year as well. I'm a fan of Gears of War as well, it's very interesting.

Frankly speaking, I want to create something on the PC. It's a multi-platform [format]. I've been regularly studying work on the PC anyways, and I want to provide something as a world-wide platform because of the consequences with timing on the PlayStation platforms, MGS4 is actually for the PS3 only so far.

Part IV, April 2007

The VG Resource Center claims to have received a statement by an anonymous source within Konami.

Yes, in fact, we are working on putting Metal Gear Solid 4 on the Xbox 360 and PC, which should both come out roughly 6 months after the PS3 release. However, we've been working with Microsoft so the 360 and PC versions will both take advantage of Xbox Live and Games for Windows Live, with such features as achievements and the ability for 360 and PC owners to play against each other in multiplayer.

Part V, May 2007

An alleged Microsoft employee writing for Destructoid confirms that the game will be released on Xbox360 no more than one year after the PlayStation3 version. The article reads:

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will not be a PS3 exclusive after all. It has been confirmed that it will make its way to the Xbox 360 in 2008.

There is no true date set for the release at this point, but November of 2008 has been mentioned. This is not set in stone as Konami is working with Microsoft to bring the date forward as much as possible. (...) The announcement hasn't been officially made yet, but the source works for Konami, and I know for a fact that MS has been negotiating this for months.

The article has since been subjected to a ´Cease and Desist´ order.

Part VI, July 2007

A Reuters article cites Kazumi Kitaue, head of Konami's North American and European operations speaking about a multi-platform MGS4.

Kitaue said Konami may need to expand the target hardware for its blockbuster fighting game Metal Gear Solid, which has so far been developed for Sony's PlayStation machines, to other consoles in the future to recoup development costs.

"Since Metal Gear Solid was born for the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. But we might have to take some steps," Kitaue said. (...)

Only days later, the Official Xbox Magazine claims a "bankable source" confirmed that the game would be coming to Xbox360 "a few months" after the PS3 version.

Soon after, music and videogame retailer HMV lists a PS3 and an Xbox360 version on its website, detailing 2008 release dates of April 18 and September 26, respectively, later claiming an "admin error".

Look, it´s obviously coming to Xbox360 and that´s that. There will also be some Wii version of MGS, as has been mentioned many times. In both cases, it is simply a questin of when, not if.

Source: XboxFamily
Thanks to: 1UP


Some Guy said...

You seem really hell bent on MGS4 coming to 360. What do you have against Sony?

But for the sack of the argument here are some links contradicting your thesis. :)



Also, what’s the point? Let’s say that the game does go over to the 360 in 12-14 months after the PS3 version (like the rumors are saying). Does that mean anything? GTA 3 was a timed exclusive for PS2; people did not wait the 12 months to pick it up on X-Box. I think you are dramatically overstating the importance of whether or not this title will be exclusive or a timed exclusive. Personally I don’t think it matters but that is just my opinion.

Looking forward to part VIII :)

Falafelkid said...

First of all, I wish all of you people here a happy new year. Sorry about the continued lack of updates. With the start of my two-part series on independent studios developing for Wii that is sure to end soon.

Hi Some Guy.

Thanks for the links. I am, of course, aware of the fact that Sony and Konami are publically stating that MGS4 is PS3 exclusive. That´s no surprise, really, because their contract requires that.

And I am absolutely sure that the contract only relates to a timed exclusive. That is a standard procedure in this industry.

However, bear in mind that Metal Gear Solid has been almost universally exclusive to the PlayStation consoles and is heavily associated with it.

MGS2 Substance and MGS Twin Snakes were the only versions to make it to a non-PlayStation console.

After losing GTA exclusivity (which has been associated with the PlayStation consoles in a similar fashion), this is the last big exclusive alongside Final Fantasy.

That´s why this is a big deal for the fortune of the PlayStation3 and Sony, who I have nothing against, by the way.

Of course, Warner going Blu-ray exclusive will prove to be a significant argument in favour of the console. But my sober judgement is that the PS3 is bound to stay in third place. Softwarewise, Wii and Xbox360 are miles ahead. And being able to play MGS4 on the 360 down the road will surely make some people who have waited to buy a PS3 reconsider.

Anonymous said...

falafel I'm tellin you it aint long before
ps3 sale will skyrocket!

its just a matter of time that warner let the cat out of the bag even my dad got one just to watch movies on it as it is the cheapest blue ray player.

It simply offers great value for the price to begin with

Best regards from munich


Anonymous said...

post one what do you have against sony ARE YOU HAVING A DAM GIGGLE EVERYTHINGS WRONG WITH SONY


who cares mgs is a hyped overrated pile of crap mgs 3 on ps2 was a joke clunky controls stupid asses looking graphics dated animations

konarmi only do more becouse sony chucks sacks of yen at them

nz guy said...

what? an almost on topic comment from ials.. wtf? gud 4 u ials.

but..I really dont think sony fanboys are sitting around, twiddling their thumbs, waiting for the perfect time to buy a ps3. I think the sony hardouts already have their ps3s and the people who bought ps2s just arent interested. Probably coz the 360 is more appealing.

It would be more interesting if MGS4 had close release dates for the 360 and ps3 (assuming its on 360) so we could analyse sales to see who benifits more from the title and even if the game has any noticable affect to the consoles sales.

good to have you commenting fal ;)

Anonymous said...

i will buy mgs4 for the 360-- and i don't care even a tiny bit about metal gear games. haven't bought one since metal gear for the NES which i still have.

why aren't we talking about THESE, falafelkid? come on, man! we need you!

-"superfan" tactics.

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