Tuesday, May 03, 2011

Nintendo to incorporate haptic feedback?

There are fresh rumours regarding the controller of Nintendo's new home console. The touchscreen will offer haptic feedback in a way that allows different surface structures to be distinguishable, Swedish gaming news site Loading has learnt from a "source close to Nintendo". Apparently, the console may be called Nintendo Feel. Thanks to Fook for this one.
The revolutionary aspect will once again be found in the controller itself. (...) Haptic technology is a form of tactile feedback used to simulate the experience of touching different objects shown on screen. The player can move their fingertips across a surface and clearly feel the difference between soft, smooth or rugged textures. Electronic companies across the world have been conducting research in this field for years. It’s been rumored that Apple is close to patenting a similar technology, and we’ve seen the Toshiba demonstration of ‘New Sensation UI Solution’, that applies a thin film over a screen in order to achieve a haptic effect. (...)


You have to try Nintendo Feel to really understand. But the idea itself is very easy to sell, no matter if you are aiming for hardcore players or the wider audience that was first introduced to games through DS, Wii or Kinect. (...) Remember Vitality Sensor? It will most likely make a comeback at this year’s E3, though not as a peripheral for Wii, but as a key feature of Nintendo Feel.

The author goes on to imagine stroking and feeling fur in ´Nintendogs´ or drawing patterns in the sand in ´Legend of Zelda´, feeling the cool river, hot lava or the structure of the bark of an old tree.

You may remember that an early haptic accessory, the Novint Falcon, has been mentioned a number of times before the Wii was fully unveiled.

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Grandmaster B said...

Fal the chap in the previous blo post mentioned that the rumour was named Feel and not necessarily the console name. How I read it I thought thats what they are claiming to actually call the console too. But could be lost in translation for me.

I would nearly gamble my whole life to say that it wont be named Nintendo Feel either. No one knew about Wii and no one knows about this one coming either. Or rather the people who DO KNOW will not leak the info to anyone.

Anonymous said...

wow sounds great..hope its real.

Anonymous said...

wiiboy101 hasas been saying this all along after motion the innovation is feel ....looks like the gaming god got it write yet again ,,,wiiboy101 also said a touchscreen can mimick a wii remote wii remotes have rumble and speaker so surfaces can be felt and heard as you go over them think wii web brouser and wii menu and feed back in cod etc it allows you to feel and hear what your touching 3rd partys mostly ignored this innovation as per usual.....so having a touchscreen that allows a rumble and feel maybe sound feed back would offer the same thing as a wii remote if not much better so as you navigate say a web brouser or wii menu yiu get a wii remote experiance and add to that feeling the screen will REDUCE the need to look down at it instead keep your eyes on the tv screen again like wiimote fps controls and camera controls will be un matched by sony and ms second analog stick= ,s obsolete.....

Anonymous said...

so with wii 2 i can choose wiimote or touchscreen ,so now all casual second analog stick fanboys aka sony and ms freaks should be deemed the true casuals anyone choosing second stick vs a wii mouse pointer or a wii 2 haptic touchscreen mouse interface needs CASUAL tatooed on there frigging heads for the benefit of the HARDLYCORE second stick is not hardcore gaming

Anonymous said...

cod wii2 touchscreen mouse or wiimote mouse thats CORE gaming clearly

Fook said...

You´re welcome!
Yes, as I stated earlier the people at Loading.se that first wrote this rumour named "it" Feel, but that came from them and not the source. They also made the (as they thought obviously) false logo for this new system. They have explained all this.(in swedish on the sites forum)
But the haptic tech still remains the to be the big surprise at e3.
We will see if that is true in a couple of weeks :)

Anonymous said...

allegedrapist here. Remember me from the Revolution days? You've bested me, and I bow down to you.
What do you say about Wii 2 having only a 8GB HD? I remember Iwata saying the Wii was going to have 512MB of flash instead of an HD because they feared a kid could break it by picking it up and dropping it. This is a ridiculous reason, but considering Nintendo is all about cutting costs, and flash costs more than a HD, it is probably the reason why they chose flash. This brings the question of whether Nintendo really knows what 3rd parties and hardcore gamers want. I have doubts whether it'll be able to play DVDs (Nintendo will say you already have a DVD player, but we also have the weather channel and a browser). This company seems to run by engineers, not business men.
I'm a Nintendo fan, but I have doubts the Wii 2 will do well. We'll see in E3.
Your thoughts?

Grandmaster B said...

@allegedrapist

If Nintendo is not run by business men then maybe you want to check how much Nintendo profit has made from the Wii and DS? Regardless of how Nintendo is run they know how to churn a lot of profit :)

Sony and MS are run by dumb businessmen.

Anonymous said...

allegedrapist here:
Yes, they are running a profit, but how long will it last? Look at the Wii now. Even when the Wii was selling very well, analysts predicted the PS3 and 360 would outsell the Wii in the long term. I laughed them off (as I do most analysts), but they're probably going to be right. Do you see any prospect for the Wii until the Wii 2 is released? Skyward Sword? Nintendo is admitting they messed up on the Wii. Developing and rolling out a new product is always expensive. Nintendo is forced to prematurely. Is this good business?

Just look at Nintendo now. Many of the developers behind Metroid have left Retro; they want to work on cool stuff they can put on their resumes, not Donkey Kong games. When we first heard of the Wii, people kept saying that it would be THE platform for FPSs. How did that go? Iwata was saying that with the Wii we could create new genres. Anything notable? The 3DS isn't living up to expectations; Nintendo has admitted this. You keep hearing that people want one mobile device for everything, but Nintendo says otherwise. Who's right? The mobile threat is real.

Engineers can do great things, but they are idealists. Sony and MS made a practical product, and it's doing well. Nintendo keeps harping about that its all about the SW, but Sony and MS understand this fact more than Nintendo. Nintendo banked on developers innovating with the Wii, but game development is expensive, and they will go with the conservative option: good graphics, sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Sony and MS understood this. It is amazing that Nintendo is realizing this now. This points back to my point that they are more engineers than businessmen.

Anonymous said...

AP again:
I also find it amusing that Nintendo was talking about high development costs and how the Wii would solve those issues. That didn't go very well. Developers know that consumers want games with high quality content, and therefore are willing to put in the effort to make a game with high quality content, and it's just to much effort to scale the assets down for the Wii. I remember when I first heard that the Wii development kit would cost under $2k. Lower development costs! Greater ROI! More games! I laugh at my naivety now.

It is also amusing that Nintendo always talks about quality. Reggie said that they will not court garage developers for the 3DS (and I'll guess, probably not the Wii 2). Why? My guess it's because they're all about quality, quality, quality. This is when you can find shoddy Wii games--games Nintendo has stamped their seal of quality--in Kohl's next to the apparel. I wouldn't be surprised if there are gas stations selling Wii games next to the beef jerky.

After the N64, GCN, and Wii, can we trust Nintendo to get anything right with the third party games?

Going to bed now!

Grandmaster B said...

You are thinking from the traditional gamer point of view though. For gamers and hardcore gamers Wii was a major let down. I havent touched Wii for maybe 6 months. I play PS3 only when I have time.

But from a business perspective you cannot argue against it being a success. I cannot say the same about PS3 and Xbox 360. I dont know where you are coming from saying they are doing well, maybe you can point it out to me.

Wii was massively sold to the mass and profited hugely. It has had its lifespan and now its time to move on. So Nintendo bring out a new system and it starts again, whether it will be in demand is another thing.

You can argue the point that MS and Sony have longer business plan for PS3/360 but it is just stupid for emerging technology. Technology changes so quickly, so profiting 5+ years after system launch and expecting it to profit years after is just stupid business.

Nintendo are smart businessmen so I dont think anyone can question that. They can just be better to accomodate to a larger audience, a audience they have not satisfied, and thats most of us gamers. If they can cater to us and the mass then they can only count their money.

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ZORG HARDCORE ATTACK OF HARDDRIVE MELTDOWNS AS IF HARDDRIVES HAVE ANTHING TO DO WITH GAMING

IL TELL YOU KNOW WII 2 WILL BE A COMBO OF FLASH DRIVE AND FLASH CARD SLOT AS ITS A 2012 CONSOL;E NOT A 1950S CONSOLE

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nintendo isnt in the NOW LOADING BUSINESS there in the game play business

Anonymous said...

has everyone forgot nintendo's touchscreen feedback rumble patent for weak to strong advanced rumbles threw the stylus everyone said it was for 3DS but 3DS dont have it

soooo whats it for !!!!!!!!?

Anonymous said...

I do not doubt that the Wii and DS are successful products. I guess you could say that my argument that Nintendo is not a sound business is because of their future. I doubt their third party support will get better; we've been hearing since GCN that it would get better, and it hasn't. Their online prescence is pathetic, and I have doubts it will be better in their next console. The mobile threat is very real. As much as Nintendo hates to admit it, people want to carry around one mobile device for everything. As I mentioned above they even though they are obsessed with quality, they allow shovelware on the Wii but prevent garage developers with neat ideas from developing for the Wii; this implies there is something political behind this decision.

I think MS and Sony have a good business plan for their current consoles. They made the consoles pretty powerful so they could have a longer life cycle. They knew the graphics can only be so good. Having a console that will has 7 years is more cost effective than the traditional 5 year cycle. They knew if they had good third party support, they would have good core base, and therefore, developers wouldn't drop their consoles even with more powerful PC hardware. Look at it this way: even if Wii 2 has good third party support, developers will likely develop for all 3 consoles. And I would say that the PS3 and 360 are successful because every third party releases their games on both those consoles, knowing that there is a lot of money out there for them. The third party games, online downloads, etc. bring in money for Sony and MS.

Anyway, we'll see at E3.

Anonymous said...

7 billion loss ps3 k-board issues

Anonymous said...

GOOD BUSINESS MODEL ARE YOU SMOKING SONY BRANDED CRACK !!!!!!

PS3 HAS LOST 7 BILLION DOLLARS AND OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS SONY HAVE OPERATED AT MASSIVE LOSS SO MORE LIKE 10 BILLION PLUS LOST AT SONY SLIM WAS A MOVE TO STOP SONY GOING BANKRUPT IN A YEARS TIME PS3 HAS EXHAUSTED every penny son had

xbox 1 4 billion loss x360 5 billion loss red ring issue 1 billion loss kinect 1 billion spent ad windows phone flop zune flop another 1 to 2 billion loss

nearing 20 billion loss for xbox division at MS

ps3 will never ever profit mathematical FACT x360 will never profit mathematical fact

both operate at loss to this day and most 3rd partys backing them this gen also operating at loss red ink loosing cash

can you explain good bussines plan by sony and ms

considering x360 and ps3 will end there lives owing the companys billions and billions and bilions in lost cash

son has exhaursted every penny they had on ps3 do you realise that sony is down sizing and cost cutting just to survive

wii is the most profitable console in history and DS is the most profitable handheld in history

wake up and stop fanboying

Grandmaster B said...

Totally agree with you but not sure you figures are correct.

And dont write off WinMo7 yet either, I think you are being a bit pre-mature for that. Unless you were referring to WinMo6.5 and below.

And yes from a business financial point, PS3 and Xbox360 they are a total failure. I still dont see your points suggesting otherwise as you are still talking about the future when you can only base success of something that has already happened. You are also assuming that Nintendo will fail in certain areas, I lack the confidence too, but I wont put any money down on it as you never know. But what I do know is MS and Sony will continue to bring in further losses and both companies planned to make losses to try and destroy the competition to have the market for themselves and it didnt work and spat back in their face.

As the guy smoking something (maybe fumes from a burning Sony controller?) above said above me, Sony's global company is suffering very badly from the failure of the PS3 and their many divisions are suffering from it, especially hurt more through the so called global financial crisis.

Grandmaster B said...

Sorry the 3rd paragrapgh is directed at the AP guy.

Anonymous said...

following is fact

ps3 lost more money than n64 gamecube ps1 and ps2 made combined that is a massive amount of cash and has left Sony near bankrupt samsung and nintendo have effectively entered Sony mansion killed all the henchmen then shotgunned a deranged screaming Sony in the back watched him fall into his silly water feature HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN

fan that you have issues

nintendo makes more profit than sony panasonic jvc and sharp combined and then some

sony are no longer a player nintendo cut there throats

Anonymous said...

nintendo enters HD with a true HD console that's small cool low energy using quiet very fast loading does not over heat and break down is designed to withstand child and teen abuse has motion controls and a all new tablet gaming pad and a nintendoized fun wifi online and off line connectivity experience

HD era gaming DONE RIGHT NOT WRONG

Anonymous said...

can someone explain to me why hardlycores fanboy hard drives there slow loud have moving parts and are based on 1950s tech

solid state drives and memory cards are the future and nintendo went flash solid state in the n64 era before everyone else and gamecube was solid state drive and card ready last gen and ps2 and xbox were not

3DS and wii 2 will be a combo of solid state drive and flash card reader support AS ITS A NEXT GEN SYSTEM NOT A 1950S SYSTEM

roling my true gamer eyes at the hardly cores

Anonymous said...

I do not dispute the PS3 and 360 lost money. I dispute the figures posted on these posts, but the consoles are making money now. I never stated they are currently a better business than Nintendo, but in the long run, I think they have a better business plan than Nintendo.

Sony and MS are better in touch with consumer tastes. Consider that Nintendo still insists that consumers want both a hand held gaming device and smart phone. Why? Nintendo is all about quality, quality, quality. This is when you can get high quality games, Madden, Dead Space, Rainbow Six, the SNES Square games, etc. on the iPhone--all with better graphics than the DS. Or is Nintendo catering the 3DS to women, who have a purse to carry and smart phone and a 3DS?

As regards to the hard drive, all I can say is that if Nintendo can provide a solid state HD at the same price their competitors provide their hard drives, which are 100GB+, I'm on board. You may ask, why does the consumer need this much space? Consumers love big numbers. I remember when Miyamoto was taking about the development of the Wii, he said the Wii could have been sold for cheap, but the on board flash raised the cost.

Anonymous said...

im not disputing that ps3 and x30 lost money but there making money now

CAN YOU TELL US HOW THAT IS EVEN MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE!!!!!!

PS3 LOST AROUND 7 BILLION SO IF PS3 DID IN FACT START PROFITING WITCH IT HASN'T AND SAY IT ACTUALLY MADE 1 BILLION BY ITS LIFE END

THAT WOULD BE A LOSS OF 6 BILLION OUT OF 7 BILLION

SO THE PS3 HAS LOST 6 BILLION NOT MADE 1 BILLION SOOOOOOO PS3 HAS NEVER EVER MADE A PROFIT HAS IT BASIC MATH


IF XBOX 1 LOST 4 BILLION AND X30 5 BILLION AND OTHER FAILERS AT MS MEDIA HARDWARE DEPARTMENT TOTALLING AROUND 20 BILLION

THEN X30 MADE 1 BILLION B ITS LIFES END THAT 20 BILLION LOSS WOULD BECOME A 19 BILLION LOSS

SOOOOOOO AGAIN WHAT PROFITS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THEY DONT EXIST

PS3 """"FACT""" WILL NEVER PROFIT AND LEAVE A DEBT OF BILLIONS AND BILLIONS

X360 """"FACT""" WILL NEVER PROFIT AND LEAVE A DEBT OF BILLIONS AND BILLIONS

IF X30 MADE A OPERATING PROFIT OF SAY 20 MILLION IN A 3 MONTH PERIOD HOW IS THAT A PROFIT WEN THERES A HUGE MLTI BILLION DEBT ALREADY IN EXISTENCE AND THEN MS JIST SPENT HALF A BILLION ON KINECT ADVERTISING THEN HOWS THE 20 MILLION A PROFIT

IF O MAKE 20 MILLION AFTER LOOSING 20 BILLION THEN SPEND HALF A BILION ON KINECT

HOW WAS 20 MILLION A PROFIT

ARE YOU FRIGGING SERIOUS PS3 NEAR KILLED SONY AND MS HAVE NEVER EVER MADE PROFIT FROM XBOX OR HARDWARE """""""EVER""""""""

what part of 20 billion loss 20 million operating fake profit do you not understand!!!!!!!


if im a cow farmer and have 100 cows each giving 1 gallon of milk a day and i need to sell 1 gallon from each cow to be profitable but as i milk im spilling 90 gallons out of 100 then selling 10

how the fuk is that a good business


the level of fanboying going around the ps3 and x360 is INSANITY......

ps3 online is down till end of may another 2 weeks ANYONE PLAYING OWNING AND PARTING WITH CASH FOR SONY PRODUCTS IS A

NINTENDO HAS WON ALREADY WAKE UP

Anonymous said...

PS3 SELLS AT LOSS AND PROFIT FROM GAMES SALES IS TO WEAK TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE SO BILLIONS ARE LOST AND SON AS A WHOLE COMPANY ALSO OPERATES AT CONTINUED LOSS SO ITS MASSIVE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DAMAGE

X360 SELLS AT A LOSS AND HAS A HUGE MULTI BILLION DEBT THEN MS KEEP GIVING 3RD PARTYS MILLIONS FOR A GAME THEN A BILION IN RED RING OFF DEATH WARRANTYS AND A BILLION IN KINECT DEV AND ADVERTISING

HOW IS X30 PROFITING IF THE IOPERATING PROFIT ON PAPER AT XBOX IS MILLIONS BUT THE SPENDING AND LOOSING IS BILIONS

EXPLAIN TO US WERE IS THE PROFIT


IF I HAVE A GIANT WATER TANK AND ADD 1 GALLON OF WATER A DAY BUT THERES A HOLE IN MY TANK LOOSING 10 GALLONS A DAY

AM I LOSING WATER OR MAKING WATER

IS THAT SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT

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