Sunday, April 05, 2009

This week in ´neues´: Violence in videogames




I interviewed Harvard psychiatrist Dr. Cheryl Kay Olson, co-director at the ´Center for Mental Health and Media' and author of the book `Grand Theft Childhood` as part of today's program, focussing on violent videogames and their possible effect on children and adolescents. Here is an exclusive interview in English, which I translated for our webpage into German.

Why did you approach this debate about violent videogames? A lot of German politicians would have you believe there is plenty of research around already and it clearly reveals a causal relationship between violent video games and aggressive behavior.

There are actually fewer studies than people realize. Also, some studies don’t measure the content of games played (only how much time was spent playing games); other studies confuse children’s aggressive play with violence that’s intended to hurt someone. Many studies include only a few dozen children, and then claim to represent all children. And studies are often done with college studies in artificial settings, where the students play a game for 20 minutes (very unlike real life).

Our research (involving surveys and focus groups) was designed with the needs of parents in mind. We wanted to help parents (including ourselves!), teachers, doctors and politicians understand what kinds and amounts of video game play are normal, when to worry about violent video games, and when video games might even benefit children.


Violent video games are commonly linked to school shootings and videogame critics assert that they often push the perpetrators over the brink. Does that not make those games dangerous? The Bavarian interior minister called them “killing simulators” and compared the impact of them to the impact of child pornography.

There is so much publicity about school shootings in the US, Germany and other countries. But a review of the data shows that this type of violence is not increasing – it’s the media coverage of the violence that has gone way up. So, people believe that school violence is much more common than it is. (Your child is actually more likely to be struck and killed by lightning than to be shot at school.)

The Secret Service and the FBI in the US have studied school shootings in an effort to identify a “profile” of potential shooters and prevent these tragedies. They were not able to find a profile. The only thing these shooters had in common was male gender and (often) a history of treated or untreated depression. Some were bullies and some were victims of bullies; some were good students and some did poorly in school. Many did watch violent films or play violent games, but the average teenage boy today does this, too. School shooters often wrote stories about imagined violent acts, however.

Also, we researched the issue of whether it’s possible to learn to shoot from a video game. Experts told us that it’s actually not difficult to shoot a gun at someone who is not moving, is not shooting back at you, and is not far away from you – even if you have little experience with guns. Media reports on a few school shootings in the U.S. said that these boys had never fired a real gun, but learned only from video games; this turned out not to be true. They had practiced with real guns.


Your book seems to assert that a gut reaction to such a topic can often be misleading, even entirely wrong.

People have been worried about bad influences from new media ever since the debut of cheap paperback novels in the late 1800s. These fears were also expressed about violent movies, television, and comic books. One difference with video games is their interactive nature; if I’m concerned about a movie, I can rent it on DVD and fast-forward through it to see if the content is appropriate for my child. I can’t do that with a video game. Also, many parents don’t know how to operate the controls on their child’s video game console. And when parents see photos or short video clips from very violent games, they may wrongly assume all games are like that. Finally, the fact that these are called “games” makes people think they are for children; just like films, many video games are definitely not created for children.

Critics of video games often assert that violence in games is far more detrimental than violence in movies because you act out the violence yourself. Is that so? Or is there another way of looking at this? Could games even be the better vehicle for violence because the player can control the degree and pace of the violence? In a horror movie, I am at the director’s mercy and helplessly subjected to his idea of how much violence can be shown.

There are many opinions about this issue, but very little research. I can understand the argument that acting out violence seems worse than watching it. However, game controls are not at all like real weapons, and the physical movements used in games cannot train you to carry out real-life violence.

Also, the video game player is always aware that he is playing a game, and must take an active role to keep the game going. He can pause or quit at any time. One might argue that this reinforces the difference between the game world and the real world. When we watch a film, we have no control over the story and the only way we can stop it is to turn it off or leave the room; this is potentially more traumatizing for a child than a game that he controls.


You seem to be much more concerned with the effects of games used as marketing tools and browser games. Why is that?

When everyone is focused on violent content in commercially available, rated games, it can be easy to overlook Web-based games that may promote offensive attitudes or beliefs. It is impossible for governments to regulate or rate games that are played over the Internet. Parents need to be careful to monitor Internet use for that reason; some free web-based games are racist or sexist, while others push commercial products.

You are a mother yourself. What should parents do? Is it enough to check the age ratings?

One problem with the age ratings is that they don’t tell us about the context or the goals of the violence. Studies on TV violence tell us that the manner in which violence is portrayed could make a child more or less likely to imitate violence. For example, if the perpetrator of violence is appealing and attractive, if no pain or suffering is shown resulting from the violence, or if the violence is shown as humorous, these might increase the risk of imitation.
Age ratings also don’t address other things parents told us were important to them – such as whether violence is done to aliens, zombies or other unrealistic characters vs. realistic humans. And as one parent said, “"It's one thing, killing; it's another thing, you know, chopping, decapitating, lighting on fire…."

My son is now 19; he was 14 when we started our research on video games. Our computers were in a shared room, so I was able to observe the kinds of games he played and how he reacted to them, while I was doing work on my own computer. Some of his games had violent content, but what he really seemed to enjoy were interesting stories and complex characters. And at times, if he had a difficult day, he would work out his stress and anger through a violent game.

If possible, ask your child to teach you how to play part of a game he enjoys, and ask him to explain what he likes about it. Even if you are not comfortable playing video games yourself, it’s important to watch your child play now and then to see what is in his favorite games, and how he reacts to them. For example, most children feel more relaxed after playing a video game. If your child is more angry and stressed after playing a particular game, it may not be appropriate for him.


Finally, video games are part of today’s youth culture. Is it not perfectly healthy, even necessary for kids to play them? Should we not be worried when our kids do not play them at all?

It’s important to remember that electronic games are a medium – like books or films. We need to move beyond condemning the entire medium, and focus on the content of individual games. I can trace much of my son’s interest in world history and politics to computer games such as the Civilization and Age of Empires series. Many entertainment games also teach planning and strategy skills.

But just as some books are trashy or are inappropriate for children, so are some games. And, sometimes it’s good to read a book or play a game that doesn’t teach anything at all, but is simply fun or relaxing!

Our research found that for young teenage boys in particular, it is very unusual not to play electronic games. Your child may in fact be left out socially if he doesn’t play, because children often organize activities around group play as well as discussion of game characters and strategies.
However, parents have the right to set limits on when and how often their children play video games. I encourage parents to keep video game consoles, TVs and computers out of children’s bedrooms; we found that having a console or computer in the bedroom was linked to more time spent on games, and greater odds of playing violent games. Other researchers have found that technology in the bedroom also interferes with sleep, which is very important for children’s health and academic achievement.

It’s important not to panic if you find your child playing a game that upsets you. Just because a child pretends to be a criminal in a game, that does not mean he wants to be a criminal in real life. Children enjoy testing what it feels like to be different types of people in the safety of the fantasy video game world. However, it’s important to talk with your child about why you object to certain games, so he understands the reasons for your concerns. Try to find positive things to say about some of his games; this shows him that you value his interests and opinions, and helps build a good relationship.


The show is in German. You can watch it on television at these times:


Sunday, 5th of April, 4:30pm CET (3sat)
Tuesday, 7th of April, 1:50 am CET (ZDF)
Thursday, 9th of April, 1:30 pm CET (ZDF-Infokanal)


You can also watch it online through our station's Mediatheque. This direct link should be live already. Soon, you can download the entire programme through our podcast page, where you also find the above bonus content. Please also visit the show's blog for additional content.

Source: 3sat neues, `Grand Theft Childhood`

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

cubeboy101-wiiboy101 i know a guy who flipped on his whole family for not winning a mario kart race on the n64 ITS KINDA UNDERSTANDABLE i know that feeling lol....

basically he tried to knife up his mum sister dad, his sister defended them with a old smelly mop banging him in the face as he attacked them, i know because my brother and i watched it all happen from a space room window at the back of my mums house looking directly down into there garden, we watched it unfold in there kitchen he then came over to tell us what he had done... WE ALL FELL ABOUT GIGGLING HIGH ON WEED THINKING YOU MAD BASTARD... he stated he was starving as mum now refused to feed him he went down stairs asked my mum

CAN I HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT CATH IM FEELING QWEAK AND SHIT MY MUM WONT FEED ME resulting in more giggles heard from upstairs me and my brother the guy then got addicted to smack AND LIVED IN THE GARDEN SHED

GOD THOSE WERE THE DAYS

i accually live on the housing est were one kid killed the other linked to GTA AND MANHUNT

yes thats right i live there my son went to the same school

hompo said...

wii is such a kiddy console

Anonymous said...

I can't believe how bad The Conduit looks in the newest screens.
Have you seen the new Conduit shots?? someone please tell me they're an aprils fools joke or something! That doesn't even match 1st gen Cube titles like Star Fox Adventures! It looks like utter trash in those shots IMHO!In some of the vids it looks ok but those shots are laughable.

My Wii has been collecting dust for months. I have completely lost my faith in Nintendo as a company. I figure they truely are a kids and young teens company at heart! And they won't change unless their kiddy games stop selling!

IGNs Wii games of spring list is such a joke!Nothing solid for hardcore gamers.
Madworld , House Of the dead and Tenchu aren't AAA games. I don't have the time and energy for average games. I want real highlights!Nintendo is for kids!

The only game worth paying for on Wii is SMG but that a kids game too. I'm too old for Nintendo. I can't support them anymore. Their games simply don't interest me anymore. Publishers don't even seem to take them serious to begin with. I don't want Excitekiddybots. I guess it's better for me to lay my childhood fantasies to rest once and for all and to grow up.

There are way better alternatives nowadays.

Goodbye Ninty

Kate said...

That's horrible and sad! parents should take care with the videogames that their kids are playing.

Anonymous said...

Sad is when you incite hate on a nintendo blog.
What's the point?
It just upsets people.

Your brain is so limited you can't fathom the fact that other people like Nintendo.
Get over it.

I love my Nintendo wii.
And i love that Ninty is #1 again!
(yes there are bad games like every console) but Im sorry.
The wii is fucking fun as hell.
That's why its selling so well.

I've got to get back to Super Punch Out now to train for the new one!

NZ Guy said...

ok.. i will actually comment on the article lol.

I can see both sides but there is deffinitly age limits that certain games have for good reason and if parents stick to them then you shouldnt fuck you kid up haha. E.G. dont let a 6 year old play manhunt...

I gotta admit i get agressive from playing games but its more of a competitive thing. doesnt mean im emulating violence.

good read falafel

Jason Alexander said...

Finally somebody has some sense of reality. Nice Falafelkid

Anonymous said...

colour me surpised. The new Conduit ASE trailer sports some of if not the best gfx I have ever seen on a Ninty console to date. It almost has a next gen look to it

IALS

pero_detlic said...

you need an aye-check, sir

conduit looks worse than GC's first gen games

pero_detlic said...

Eye, of course ;)

Anonymous said...

nooooooo
pero watch the trailer in hd it looks good trust me
IALS

pero_detlic said...

dude, i watched it. enemies look decend, but enviroments... just sucks. from lightning to textures

darkside chronicles looks better to me. even EA's dead space extraction

Anonymous said...

ez brudda!!!I know where youre comin from!look I was even more skeptical than you until recently!in fact I was the Conduit hater number 1 on the web but I have finally changed my stance towards it ever since I saw the nyc and ASE vids. It really looked like utter trash to me for a long,long period of time and I didnt expect it to change. To be honest, the shots still look like crap. but it has gotten to the point where if you pay close attention youre able to make out some rather big improvements as far as lighting,textures etc are concerned!they have addressed a lot of stuff and the overall look is much more satisfying than before in the new ASE trailer. Lets take the normal mapping on the ASE for example!in previous trailers the normal maps didn't even come out right but now you can really tell the difference.

Keep in mind that you have to watch the ASE trailer in hi rez to get an idea since a lot of the detail is lost in the lowrez one.

Its not Half Life 2 or whatever you might expect artistically but you have to acknowledge that its gotten much better since its unveiling at least.

IALS

poero_detlic said...

i watched it in hi res! looks even worse due to lack of detail and very weak ligntning.. low res video can fool you in a good way.

look, the conduit looks average... but the most unbelievable thing is that starfox adventures and rogue leader look waaaaaay better- 8 years old games on last-gen system!

i saw some new silent hill screens.. looks kinda nice. i like how dude's flashlight casts shadows... you see? in 2009 i look forward for some nice casting shadows. that's just sad. just like you are looking forward to conduit's weak bump-mapping at 30 fps. that's just sad for 2009

Anonymous said...

yeah it's still kinda sad when you consider what games like Star fox adventures and Rogue leader did 8 years ago. It makes you wonder if its all just a marketing trick. Wii gamers keep complaining about weak gfx on their system so HV might have thought that it would be clever to promote and sell a game based around the gfx.

Some of the stuff is just cheap looking like the texture work on the soldiers clothes in this pic:

http://www.computerandvideogames

.com

/viewer.php?mode=article&id=213038

looks extremely cheap imho.

and the modelling of the environments. Like in this pic:

http://www.computerandvideogames

.com/viewer.php?mode=article&

id=213028

fighting aliens in the white house? oh c'mon!! it looks totally odd!the weird looking green alien in a white house living room. The alien and the enviroment don't even match visually. It looks out of place. The environments certainly have a very static plain and unfinished look to them at times and its not due to tech. They simply lack a certain artistic vibe. Maybe instead of focusing so much on the tech HV should hire some better artists!?!;-))

pero_detlic said...

those screens are just awful

jea, i noticed that too, enemies and enviroments dont't fit... i dont even know how to explain... on the second pic- like, some light sources are affecting the enemy but not the enviromnt. or simply, enviroments are just plain ugly

some enemies look good, some not... but enviroments just sucks

Anonymous said...

How many screens has HV released so far?150-200?? I'm not sure, but all I can say is that I haven't seen one single truely good looking shot to date!
How come that it only takes one batch of shots for Silent Hill Wii to look good? lol! It's ridiculous. I mean HV are the ones who keep bragging with their tech, not Climax.


It's strange how many Wii gamers buy into the hype that HV has created. I mean it doesn't take a Valve employee to figure out that the screens obviously look like utter crap does it!??

I'm fed up with this BS!
It's like someone has turned back the time to pre first gen cube era

IALS

Pimp My Nintendo said...

this is a great post with wild responses

Anonymous said...

dead space wii = wow graphics

silent hill wii just may = wow graphics and wow 3d motion play

its all starting to feed thru TOOK UR TIME IGNORENT 3RD PARTYS

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