Friday, June 04, 2010

Apple calls its gaming efforts a "subset of casual gaming"



Tucked away in Apple CEO Steve Jobs' lengthy interview at the D8 conference, was an interesting admission regarding the company's gaming efforts. Jobs admitted that games from the App Store belonged to "a subset of casual gaming". Here is the full quote:


Q: What’s your vision of social gaming?

A: Clearly, iPhone and iPod touch have created a new class of gaming and it’s a subset of casual gaming, but it’s surprising how good the games are. Typical console games cost $40, but on the iPhone, they cost somewhere between free and $10, and gaming on the platform is taking off. We’re trying to do the right things to enable more gaming and social gaming.


You may remember my lengthy article arguing that iPhone or iPad shouldn't be thought of as gaming platforms. It seems that Steve Jobs has no illusions about Apple's status as a player in the games industry. While a otherwise reputable German games magazine heralded both iPhone and iPad as "new gaming consoles" and wondered whether they challenged "the right to exist" of both DS and PSP, the above quote appears rather humble and justifiedly so.

Source: D8 conference

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

booooooooooooring article!!
over one month no post and then
this!!
this is an nintendo blog, so why dont you bring news of 3ds or wii?
( i know!! that the big surprise at e3 will be that the wii will use the 3ds!! and there will be shown a new mario-game in 3d without glasses!!!)
you are a journalist at rtl2, don t you??
so where is your crative brain
of the last years?

jerry said...

God, shut up already.

This has never been a strictly 'nintendo only' blog.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, it's only the title of the whole thing.

How could anybody possibly suspect it is?

jerry said...

Yeah it's the title but read his posts you idiot. He talks about more than just the wii. There are plenty of news sites out there for nintendo only discussion, cubed3.com, n4g.com, ign,com, nintendoeverything.com. Go there, we don't need your ignorance here.

Anonymous said...

yes booorrriinmnngggggg anti nintendoism continues here this is not wii or nintendo speculation at all

this blog is ran by a turd

theres strong rumors now for a power house 3ds yet this blog speculates nothing theres talk of x360 like power in 3ds we have 3d no glasses we have all sorts of wii rumores yet this site has TOTALY FAILED IN NINTENDO SPECULATION OR Wii

now its aple time


you fail dude

Anonymous said...

fusion system on chip by ati/amd could be a power house on a chip for 3ds or even a 3ds wii hybred vitality senser zelda wm+ theres so much going on e3 cpl of weeks away

YOU FAIL BIG TIME JUST LIKE GERMANY WILL THIS SUMMER

ARGENTINA NO...1 1 NIL TRO ARGENTINA IN GERMANY RAVENGE AND THE CUP IS ARGENTINAS THIS SUMMER YOU GERMAN YOU

Anonymous said...

the site is called wii defintive speculation and has been a revolution/wii site

he made a fool of himself with the ibm cell article then dedicated the rest of his life to sucking up to IDIOT HARDLY CORES FROM NEOGAF THE RETARDED COMUNITY AS THO THEY WERE A AUTHORITY WEN IN FACT THERE A NICHE MINORTY NINTENDSO IS WASHING AWAY FOR THE GOOD OF GAMING

3DS TALK IS ENOUGH FOR THIS GUY TO WRITE ABOUT ANBD HE FAILS

FUCK APLE FUCK SONY THE BLOG LOST ITS HEAD

3D IS NEW SONY ARE THE DOGS BOLLOX SERIOUSLY THE SNES HAD LCD SHUTTER GLASSES 3D SONY ARE A JOKE

Anonymous said...

JAPANESE DMP SMAPH-S GPU 2 TO 24 CORES POSSABLY USED IN 3DS

THERES SOME SPECULATION FOR YOU

ISNT THIS YOUR BLOG SHOULDNT YOU BE DOING THIS

Anonymous said...

capcom 3ds >>NEW BUSINES MODEL<< HHHMMMM JUST MAYBE JUST MAYBE A SHOCKER A HYBRID PLEASE BRING IT NINTENDO LOL

Grandmaster B said...

regardless of his content....at least he puts his name behind what he writes unlike u gutless anonymous naysayers...

and wtf does the word cup sides have to do with the blog? nothing...moron.

Anonymous said...

Im sorry but it's true.
The recent posts have barely been tied to nintendo.

Falafel missed the whole 3ds thing.

He let us long time stereoscopic 3d holdout fans down.

That last post was boring.

Something happened here.
The blog used to be so ninty based.....

Anonymous said...

If boring or not, it is interessting what reaction comes. I think all reader are a part of this blog, so its in our hands to start a new speculation for example the biggest announcement of the year: the nintendo 3 DS. I would not wonder if ninti has à big surprise for us all hold back. For which reason they didn t Show us images of this 3DS before? I think it s cause it could Be Used with Wii. It would make sense Cause then you could touch the items directly with the remote. This would Be à real revolution. And would make Sense to all 3 d roumors in the past for the nintendo revolution.., what do you think ??? Sebastian

Anonymous said...

I can't wait to hear the latest news from DELL computers!

I love the wii definitive speculation blog.

Nick R. said...

In the saw way the Wii was seen as a "casual platform", but is now king of games in the home sector. The iOS platform might be a "subset of casual gaming", but make no mistake - it is in the battle for the minds on consumers. A lot of those consumers are first time gamers. Apple doesn't care if the hardcore need a DS/PSP to go along with your iOS device - they still have the iOS device.

The instant access to apps causes people to spend more money. it is nothing like the 50-click purchasing on the big consoles.

Basically, I agree with Steve's comments and your's, but if what people want is this "subset of casual gaming", then Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are in trouble.

---------

Can the people that just want to complain and leave "anonymous" comments go somewhere else. I appreciate the perspective given on this blog, even if I don't always side with it. At least it gets me thinking.

Anonymous said...

Wii definitive speculation to mii = wii speculation and some aditional nintendo in general speculation

with the 3DS being so secret and with the rumors wouldnt it had been SPECULATION to ask and wonder about the machine ,i.e is it a handheld that can do a ps3 like visual experiance in terms of scale 4 inch's vs 40 inch's 480p vs 720p to 1080p

is the power rumor ign just talking crap to try and be funny,is it from matt at apple to try and up nintendo fans hype only to be disapointed

or is it a hint at a new device like A hybrid console/handheld IT HAS HD AND HIGH POWER AND USING WII MOTE AND NUNCHUCK IN TV OUT MODE

AND IS A GREAT LITTLE 3D NO GLASSES DEVICE

THE ABOVE IS SPECULATING THE JOB THIS BLOG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING

Anonymous said...

i think he was payed off ££$$££$$ to go against nintendo and viral market against them on the blog for cash money i trully believe thats what hapened here HE CHANGED AFTER THE NEOGAF THING CELL PS3 ARTICLE i believe a viral marketer at neogaf has gave him a offer of big up soony we will pay you

he suddenly started bigging up ps3 for no reason

Nick R. said...

@all_the_haters

www.gonintendo.com

Please visit that site if you don't like what this site has evolved into.

Falafelkid said...

Hi everyone. Just a quick comment about this blog. This blog has always, from its inception in May 2005, been about videogaming in general. I have reported about Xbox, PlayStation, as well as about the Wii, right from the start. Now, since some people claim that Apple is now evolving into a player in this industry, it is only natural to examine these claims (and unmask them as unsubstantial). Anyone who claims that this blog has changed in any way (other than in the frequency of posts) is simply wrong and has not been a regular visitor here.

After that's out of the way, let me give you some updates. The Nibris post is again held back by a lack of replies from involved parties. I have contacted a dozen companies or so and next to none have written back, although some have promised to reply. So please bear with me.

And, finally, another reason for the lack of updates is something I eluded to earlier (but noone picked up), which is that by spring 2011 something wonderful is going to happen. I will be able to make this official by the end of this year. It is very game-related and very me-related. I will also write a little E3 prediction post by the weekend. So please stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

APPLE A SUB SET OF CASUAL GAMING

SHUT THE FUK UP WHAT UTTER GARBAGE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

CASUAL SUBE SET OFF CASUAL HARDCORE

ITS ALL INDUSTRY FALACY

Anonymous said...

something turned you dude and i think its some viral marketing heres some cash blog guy BULL SHIT GOING ON

ur a sell out

Anonymous said...

MICROSOFT INVESTERS URGING MICROSOFT TO LEAVE ALL CONSUMER ELECRICAL GOODS MARKET

XBOX/PHONES/HANDHELD/MINI OP SYSTEMS LIKE PHONE WINDOWS 7 AND NATAL

XBOX AND X360 HAVE LOST 11 BILLION OR SO THERE WINDOWS 7 PHONES IS A LOSS MAKER AS IS ALL BVUSSINESS OOUTSIDE OF CORPERATE PC SOFTWARE AND OP SYSTEMS

THERE ENTIRE ELECTRICAL GOODS BUSSINESS INCLUDING XBOX IS A DISASTER AND ALL OF IT LOOSING HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY

THERE IS NO CONSOLE WAR NINTENDO HAS WON

THERE IS NO HANDHELD WAR FOR MICROSOFT OP SYSTEMS APLE AND ANDRODE ETC HAVE WON

SONY CANNOT FIGHT NINTENDO ITS POINTLESS

NINTENDOS FIGHT NOW IS DISINTEREST IN VIDEOGAMES THEY NEED TO KEEP INVENTING THE WHEEL AND SUPLYING FUN FUN FUN =3DS

Anonymous said...

Yeah I certainly like all the Wii Tray Icons for all the news and categories of news.

Maybe Falafel should just change the name of the site to something else, and not call it "Wii: Definitive Speculation" or have the URL be "Nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com"

That way, nobody becomes tricked into thinking this site is about Nintendo when the newest news from Tandy gets reported when all the Nintendo news is swirling around.

Anonymous said...

Hi this is the IALS and I would like to comment on MH3 now that I have spent almost 30 hours with it. Well first of all I'd like to point out that while most games out today end after 8hours MH3 barely starts getting interesting. Also I have to applaude Capcom for its authentic gameplay design. MH3 captures that feeling of being a hunter in a living breathing world exceptionaly well. To those who are complaining about the controls being broken or 2 slow you absolutely dont get it because MH3 actually leans more towards a realistic simulation than arcadey style. Thats the big misconception. A hunter would never be able to attack with a gigantic sword, etc .as fast as link does in zelda for example. You can almost feel the weight of the weapons and armor you are carrying around with. It's all astonishingly authentic and well designed. Last but by no means least the audio visual presentation is simply breathtaking offering some if not the best visuals I have ever seen on a Nintendo console to date. Capcom has made very clever compromises on the detail levels of characters and monsters making them just detailed enough in order to have enough engine rendering power left for the natural environments to really shine. Some of the stuff really needs to be seen to be believed it's that gorgeous graphicaly. Have you played it? What do you think?

Falafelkid said...

Hi Nick R.

If what people want is this "subset of casual gaming", then Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are in trouble.

Sorry, Nick. But this is complete rubbish. People who are interested in a "subset of casual gaming" are interested in it at a 0,79 Cent price point. Please tell me how this could spell trouble for traditional console makers who sell deep, rich and sometimes in excess of sixty hour long games for up to fifty bucks.

Sure, Wii also won with a strong casual emphasis in its formula. But you also get a Zelda and a Metroid. On the App Store, there is nothing beyond the Jewel Quest category of games. And, like I said, filtering is horrendously bad while there is a flood of clones and crap to sift through. Apple poses no threat whatsoever to traditional console makers and their partners.

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